Elvis Costello is unfazed by Taylor Swift’s songwriting style.

Elvis Costello deeply admires Bob Dylan, Joni Mitchell, and Taylor Swift.

Alison Singer, 70, appeared on the Nov. 17 episode of the music podcast. Rockonteurs with Gary Kemp and Guy Pratt where they shared their impressions of legendary songwriters.

It began with the musician discussing his 1986 album. King of America, which he recently re-released in a deluxe CD set containing previously unreleased demos.

The conversation then turned to mindfulness as Costello said he realized “at some point” he was “not doing enough” to get the message across.

“All I was doing was reciting things that were happening to me,” the singer-songwriter recalled to the podcast’s hosts. “And while it may be interesting to listen to, it doesn’t necessarily engage the listener, because they don’t know what you’re talking about.”

He then emphasized the need for craft, which he said “comes after the desire to express these raw emotions,” referring to Joni Mitchell’s records. blueas well as Dylan’s 1975 album Blood on the tracks.

“One minute, they sound like very raw emotion, the next minute they’re clearly invented,” he said of Dylan’s tracks. “And it keeps you guessing and it keeps things interesting.”

At the same time, Costello then recognized that there was an “element of craft” in Taylor Swift’s music as well.

“And I’m not just trying to say stay with the kids, but it also makes Taylor Swift talk to people.”

“She understands the need to take personal experience,” Costello said, “but also makes sure her songs are relatable to her audience.” The poets department was subjected to torture Hitmaker “There are many more examples of him, he’s just the most successful one you can cite.”

“But that’s why he’s able to maintain such a conversation with his audience,” Costello continued, adding that personally, he’s “always known that I’m just It wasn’t comfortable to say, like, ‘Here’s my diary, let’s set it to music.’

He concluded by adding that heartbeats can be “in an instant” but “the results can be very painful and boring, so if you read them in real time, they’re not necessarily accurate. Be attentive to other people.”